ATKINS JA LEIPÄ

ATKINS: A lot of people don't need carbohydrates.

KING: Don't need any?

ATKINS: Well, certainly the people way up in the northern Alaska where they don't grow carbohydrates manage to survive. So obviously you can survive without carbohydrates. Carbohydrates are valuable because of many of the things that they contain. So our diet really is not a zero carbohydrate diet.

KING: You take carbohydrates?

ATKINS: I eat a lot of vegetables. And those are the most valuable carbohydrates. But from the very beginning we had to focus on what are the healthy carbohydrates and stay away from the unhealthy ones.

KING: All right. Let's get the most important. What are some things you will not consume? What are unhealthy carbohydrates?

ATKINS: Well, basically, it's about refined carbohydrates. That's sugar and flour, those are the refined carbohydrates.

KING: That means you do not eat bread?

ATKINS: We now eat bread because we make bread without refined carbohydrates.

KING: Mean we -- you mean, you make your own bread?

ATKINS: A lot of companies make low carbohydrate bread now. Certainly we're one of them.

KING: So that's what you would recommend, low carbohydrate bread?

ATKINS: Yes. At various times. Now, we start off -- when people start the diet, we start off very strict. And a lot of people have felt, oh, that strict first two weeks of the diet, that's the whole diet. They don't realize that the diet is a 70-year diet.