Your opinions on finnish people and Finland?

wwwerty 12.11.2006 18:25

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What do you think about finnish people? Do you think they are all punch of drunken sweatsuit wearing people? I'm doing a schoolproject on the subject and I would appreciate your answers :) Thanks.

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Not exactly... A.O.13.11.2006 11:54

....all! At least I'm not drunk .... at the moment!

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Then you must be.... Resaca13.11.2006 12:53

hungover...?

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Another correction5.12.2006 01:17

WRONG: "Then you must be hungover...?
CORRECT: Then you must HAVE A hAngover...?

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Urban dictionary resaca5.12.2006 12:13

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hungrover

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dizzee_vertigo31.1.2010 20:23

Hahaha. They're both correct. Idiot.

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Well, some of them try Ken Guru14.11.2006 17:17

to portray as English speaking. Like "wwerty".

Laughable.

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Ihmisbooli? Ken Guru14.11.2006 17:19

"Punch of people" on lähinnä ihmisbooli. Why don't you just go away - to Grade 1.

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pläääh wwwerty15.11.2006 15:45

Nobody's perfect, especially not you. ;)

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mai apinjon15.11.2006 18:46

i fink finnish pipl a veli veli nais pipl
i fink they luk laik elvs
alsou i fink finnish pipl a tender, shy and handsome pipl

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finnish people..? >finnish girl<18.11.2006 14:19

hi... I'm a finnish girl and I can tell you about finnish people:
FInnish people are very traditional, when it comes to (for example) christmas or something like that. Usually at summer, finnish people go to their cottages by the lakeand that kind of stuff. They have SAUNA which almost everyone has in finland. they use it around the year.
Finnish people are very friendly, if someone comes to speak them. they are very kind and friendly. Well, NOT EVERYONE;But MOST of them. I'd say 4/5 of finnish people are very friendly. :)
you can start with those.. there's not much but you can start with it. ;))

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I don't quite agree yks suomi-neito12.7.2009 21:28

Hi, I'm a middle-aged finnish woman in the capital city area, and I don't quite agree with the above mentioned.

Finns are quite traditional, that's true, allthough not very religious, most are nowadays more than anything very materialistic and very skeptic about all kinds of things that can't be seen, touched or hasn't been proved black on white or scientifically.

The black and white proves on everything are enourmously important to finns, don't even imagine of getting a job without a proper CD, or if you tell anybody about anything from your own life, you must have photos and proofs - finns suspect everything that is out of the ordinary. Finns believe that life basicly is mostly about everyday life and that everybody should live quite after the same values.

Many finns in bigger cities don't celebrate christmas in any particular way anymore, especially people who live alone may spend the christmas time among friends or in a restaurant. Same goes with Mayday. Many finns have a very emotional attitude to Midsummer and want to see the bonfires burning, by a lake or sea, preferably - allthough not everybody cares for that matter.

Many finns have their own sauna but many don't. For instance in old apartment buildings in Helsinki you mostly don't have a sauna in your relatively small apartment.

Finns are NOT very friendly towards strangers, especially towards other finns they don't know, it's not common to start a spontaneous conversation at a bus stop or such, they only become friendlier when you get to know them. The attitude to tourists is different, finns are allways flattered when a foreigner asks them something (like now here! :))

It's said that finnish people read a lot. Well, some do. But reading books; novels, poetry and such is actually a hobby of relatively small group of finns; the typical fiinnish middle-aged person reads weekly magazines, tabloid papers, their own local newspapers and a book or two per year that is very very popular and everybody has read, or something very light. Also books that have something to do with their job.
Finns between 20 and 30 read more.

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Finnish people friendly? meh.22.12.2009 00:50

Are you joking?

Compared to the people of many other countries. Finnish people are very simple, shy, like to be drunk every weekend, and so on.

Í would say, Finnish people are very far from friendly, compared to most other countries people. But it always matter, what are you comparing to.

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Finns are strange and so is Finland22.11.2006 13:44

The Finns are quite peculiar, and so is Finland too, so I can say after living here quite a few years. If you want to know more of my opinions check this out:
http://monamolsson.bravejournal.com/

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Moving my blog! Mona O25.9.2007 13:28

I have decided to move my Blog here's the new site for those who are interested:
http://monamolsson.blogspot.com/

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the truth straightshit30.3.2009 13:17

I have born and raised in Finland but I can say Finland is one of the strangest country in world. Yes we have good education and goverment pays good salory. But we don have anymore any culture besides the culture what we have from marketingmachine.

Finnish people only works works and works ( not have any time for their children. thats why they just watch tv and surf on internet and getting too much information too young. start drinking age of 12 and smoking and become lost and feelingretarded. Finland is top3 suicide country also. ) anyway finnish people just works and pay taxes and on weekends tey drink on bars and all the money go there. few times they go to vacation to get over their stress.

Here winter is like 4 month and its very dark and cold here.then its short 2 month spring and THE BEST TIME SUMMEr only 3 month. its BEST TIME IN FINLAND. then people are very nice and energic.

Finnish people thinks too much that finland is best country in world and other countrys are poor or something else. Finns is one of the most rasist people i Have seen. Not only for refugees but also on turist. 90% of rasist lives outside of Helsinki.

So you must remember that finlands is 2 part country is HELSINKi the "City" and countryside but in Helsinkis slang "lande." Countryside people have low esteelfm and are inside turn you know what i mean sorry about my bad english :D

thats why they speak bad about helsinki people and foreign people or like they say "differentpeople."

Finns are very shy and they have what noone on other countrys in europe have...a fare of talking..tey think if you talk to other people its embarassing. Thats why finns must drink a couple drinks...at least. and after that they will talk to you.

culture is here that you drink so much that you are very drunk, then you talk and do things...and morning you have a hangover, you dont remember a half what you have done and then you are very quiet, dont talk to anyone what happened and feel maybe bad about yeasterday.

So if must say in mean but truth way finns are feelingretarded and cold people thats why some finns like foreigner because they speak a lot and are fun to be with and finns wants that too but they are too shy.

Finland is a goodwealhcountry but finns are badwealth people. The country is beatiful with lakes and nature, but this system an people and culture..:S

I mean Finland is also very paperwar country.
Everything is so controlled. there is cameras everywhere and guards.

Finland is " free county" as finns like to say but i think it isnt.

And finlans is one of the two country in Europe where we have to go to army 8 or 11 month. every guy not women.

Finns think if you go to army you are man after thath. if you dont you are gay.

So finns are yekel ( rednecks) still.

I can say that i am half foreigner thats why i can see the truth" or the other side of coin. many finns doesnt even know that tey have a big problem in their country. Like alcoholism and not having friends totalk about.they think life is just working and payng taxes and "beeing good citizen"
They dont understand if someone thinks differently or have balls to do what want.

Finns are like sheep. one says määä others say alsoo määää. I am a tiger. doing my own thing.

Finland is not europe thats also one problem i mean this more like Estonia or russia. Sweden is Europe and people also looks more europian.

Many finns looks like mongolian because finns are mongolian race. Finns are bigs i mean womens also and many are fat and have big wiener/frankfurt fingers and potato nose. ( thats the inbred makes) Of course here is also beatiful blonds and handsome guys but like everyone says here. In finlands is MORE beatiful girl and not so much handsome guys or guys who have balls to speak and have a temperament. I mean in skandinavian countrys people are more calmn. like dead fishes :D

Yeah and people are so against marihuana and they drink that VIINA ( boost) is the best drug...LOL.

You must learn sweden i mean why to fuck finns must learn swedish and only 5% of finns ( finnisswedis) talks that and only 3% correctly. and they speak also finnish. It would be a another book if i will wrote about those arrogant bastards :D Sweden is other official language of finland but 99% finns doesnt even want to learn to speak that :D

Other countrys is many foreign people but if here comes 1 black man everyone watch badly and talk shit like he will steal our women and take our job what a bullshit.

But you must know the history to understand finns and i of course know. the wars is the biggest reasen finns are whtatey are and so on. but still i am tired to understand finns and thei culture. They dont want to know others culture and says that foreigner must learn finnish culture first and then come to finland...but whatte fuck is finnish culture ?
Watching ice hockey and formula, drinkingboost and bear, swear all the time being redneck and beating a wife :D

yeah thats true finns are barbarian i mean here is very much violentcrimes. many dad beats their children and wifes and people dont even protest agains violent because they think its part of life. i mean if guy gets ass kicekd in centrum no one will come to help they just say dont cry you are a man thats a life.

So here was a little bit information from finland. If you like cold, cold people and ugly cities so Welcome to Finland :DD

Ps. if i were a foreigner i would never want to go to finland :D

I want to move out of here and so want many my friends. Because we can see "the matrix" here. only the stupid one will be here. I will laught when finland will sink because they have a workforcedistress and they wont give job easily for foreign people because of rasism. I dont want to pay taxes for goverment who spends money for stupid thing and doesnt make any good things. yeah and finland have a fucking big debt :D

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just.. ......27.4.2009 11:53

kauheeta yleistämistä! :o hanki elämä kuule.. oikeesti :o

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the truth 2 ..............................10.5.2009 21:18

WHAT DO YOU DO IN FINLAND? still??

I'm not happy to pay taxes so you can surf on Internet and talk so much of shit about Finns.

The more I read about your text, the more I was guessing what comes next. For example 1st: too much work, 2nd: "marijuana, jiihaa". etc.

There was very much good things you said (it's true, we work TOO MUCH!). and what makes so angry, is that still we get paid too low 'coz taxes are so high ->> people who don't want to go work can live for free if they want and so they have too much for sparetime ---like you do--.

Please, go soon. You are coming very expensive for us. Shame on u. Go some another country, where people will pay for your LIVING and nice clothes!

PS. You are a moran. Everyone is a moran, if go so below, that separates people in Helsinki-city and to country people. How ridicilous. ;)Tells something about your development.

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the truth 3 suomi29.6.2009 01:28

Kyllä poika puhu asiaa. Perussuomalaisen on näköään hyvin vaikeaa ymmärtää mitä Suomessa todellakin tapahtuu. Kauheeta ryyppäämistä, ulkomaalaisvihaa, homovihaa ja kateellisuutta. Nyt joku tulee sanomaan, että kyllä muuallakin ryypätään. Niin ryypätääkin, mutta ei ryypätä räkiä poskille, eikä hakata ihmisiä, jos heillä on tummempi ihonväri tai he puhuvat jotain eri kieltä. Olen 100% suomalainen ja rakastan Suomea. Mutta joskus rasistien olisi hyvä katsoa omaa rumaa pärstäänsä peilistä.

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vasta-argumentointia joku vaan23.8.2009 18:31

Sanot, että Suomessa hakataan ihonvärin perusteella. Kenties tuo on totta, joiden alakulttuurien toimesta, mutta missäpäs niin ei loppujen lopuksi tehtäisi? Mitä vaikka sitäkin kohua joka nousi ulkomailla Tanskalaisen sanomalehden julkaisemasta Muhammed pilasarjakuvasta. Tai mieti vaikka niitä kaikkia kansanmurhia ja heimosotia joita toimitetaan Afrikan maissa. Se, että Suomessa ollaan ulkomaalaisvastaisia on kuitenkin vain erilaisten pienimuotoisten ääripäiden toimintaa, ei mitään systemaattista tai kansallisesti organisoitua väkivaltaa, tuskin.

Mainitset myös homovihan mutta jätät kuitenkin tyystin huomioitta muutamien vuoden takaiset asennetutkimukset, joissa todetaan että valtaosa suomalaisista hyväksyy homoseksuaaliset parisuhteet. Lue vaikka seuraava:

http://evl.fi/evlfi.nsf/Documents/53410900BD6F3E94C22573A1002ED8CC?openDocument&lang=FI

Mietippä sitä jos menisit täräyttämään oman homoseksuaalisuutesi julkisesti esille valtaosasta kehitysmaissa niin voisi olla, että ei kaverit pitäisi sitä kovin hyvänä.

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totta MissyZ8513.2.2010 10:45

(nimimerk. suomi:lle) mitä sanot! It's true what u said!

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finnish society jj15.7.2009 21:23

I am a black foreigner, I have a job, I pay my TAXES. I consider myself as a hard working person and I get along with some finns, mostly educated ones who don't suffer from low self esteem.

I have realized that most finns that are racist have very low self esteem and feel big when they put a black person down.They complain that foreigners are here to take their jobs and take money from the state. Well from my experience foreigners especially black want to work and are usually not employed because of the colour of their skin. Give them jobs and you will never see them at KELA or sosu. They will do any job, and most often they get the jobs that finns themselves don't want then they complain that they are taking away jobs. One thing that the average Finn doesn't know is that Finns are scattered all over the world, I was shocked to discover that some Finns actually leave in the country I come from. And the funny thing is that although they look different they are welcome and free.

Finns need to be welcoming and friendly to outsiders.Above all they need to learn other ways of building self esteem, like teaching their children respect,caring for their old parents,caring for their neighbour, not feeling jeolus about what the other person has achieved,being friendlier, spending more time with their children and family not just at joulu or any other holiday, learning more about other cultures.
Don't get me wrong not all Finns are bad and they are some positive things about Finnish people but sometimes they get overshadowed by the bad things.One of these positive things is that they are hard working.

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Good, sensible advice A Finn abroad15.7.2009 23:23

You describe us Finns quite accurately, I think. Many of us, yes, perhaps the more educated ones, and those who have lived elsewhere, have no problem with foreigners, but there is a visible minority who are racist. Like racists everywhere, Finnish racists try to cover their insecurity by bravado and bullying and blaming those who look different.

I feel that there is a section of 'humanity' missing in our society. This is difficult to explain, and I'm not even sure if this is true about the majority or just some people I've met. I've lived in two other countries, and will never return to Finland to live (I hope), and can say I have not met such simpletons anywhere else as so many of us Finns are. It's as if many of us were living some bad farce with few lines and only in a minor role. We are not a fully functioning human being, we are actors not quite familiar with the script, and certainly not able to write the script. Some kind of automatic robots going about our routine actions, saying routine phrases, reacting, not thinking. This is not being human. Being a human is to exprerience life fully, find a connection with others, creating one's life instead of reacting to events like a rag doll.

I respect maky things about the Finnish culture, and admit that we have many good qualities, such as the ability to work hard, and persistence, 'sisu'. I'm glad you are living in Finland. People like you wil eventually bring some light into darkness, even against the will of some of the population. Stay positive, keep smiling.

One memory from my past. I was living in a small town before I emigrated. I found most people difficult to get along, and rather narrow minded. The only one I was able to talk with as a human being talks to another, was a black man. He was working as a doctor. He was wonderful, but I got the impression that many didn't appreciate him.

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Traditionally, yäktyyppiKäyttäjän viestit26.7.2009 01:54

having a self esteem has been considered to be almost a criminal activity. Basically, you should always at least be able to prove you have a right to show a bit of actual self esteem. You have that right, if and when you have a written certificate stating so. A college degree will prove you are smarter than some, so that'll do, though many will think you're automatically a wuss and prove it by punching you in the face. A prison record will prove that you're tough and most people will respect that, so once again you may occasionally be entitled to a bit of self esteem. Most people will think you're an idiot, though. You can climb the social ladder until everybody is beneath you, so nobody will disagree when you simply take the right to have a self esteem. Everybody will hate you though, you arrogant asshole. You can drive a Formula1 like the devil himself to gain the respect of millions of Finns, but once your career is over, evil tongues will start wagging. You're a once famous has been, who still thinks he is something. Somebody should teach you manners, you yesteryear's double champion. Or you can spit a black guy in the face to be a five minute hero for your drunk mates. Mostly just foreigners will think badly of you. Or you can kill hundreds of Russian infantrymen with a knife and a rock to gain eternal glory that nobody can take away from you. Too bad there's no war. So, which of these do you think is the easiest way to prove you have the right to respect yourself? Come to think of it, the game of self esteem in Finland is one you can't possibly win. Everybody loses, one way or another. Why? My theory is, this has a lot to do with our history. For centuries this was a Swedish soldier-farm, you know. Does good cannon fodder need a self esteem? No. If you feel fundamentally worthless and inadequate, you don't want to live, do you? In battle men who want to live fight like cowards, whereas suicidal maniacs will pull off almost any stunt. So, in order to be respected you just have to be the last man standing or dead in action. This way of thinking is what made Sweden great, at our expense, if you ever wondered. The poor self esteem you see today is largely a remnant of that age. We are supposed to prove ourselves in combat, but there hasn't been a war for over sixty years. Crazy, but the bizarre logic makes sense if you really think about it. Well, did I ever say we're not all insane? There are some pretty good videos on Finnish history on Youtube, if you want to know more. And of course many more that are mainly ultrapatriotic crap.

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counter-arguments against your case just someone23.8.2009 18:49

Some thoughts to think about:

"Well from my experience foreigners especially black want to work and are usually not employed because of the colour of their skin."

How do you know this to be true? How can you be certain that they are actually being discriminated based on their color of the skin? This is a very bold claim without providing any statistical knowledge or any kind of evidence what so ever.

Finding a job in Finland can be very hard -- for the Finns also. The employers put extremely high demands on your skills and sometimes only the most fittest can land a steady and highly paid job. There are many things to consider, such as your previous work experience, level of education and your suitability for the job (such as, if you can't speak the language natively, it is unlikely that you will get a job in the customer service field). It is extremely easy to point fingers and to say that the color of one's skin is the reason for not landing your dream job just like that.

"One thing that the average Finn doesn't know is that Finns are scattered all over the world, I was shocked to discover that some Finns actually leave in the country I come from."

Why do you say that an average Finn does not know that they are being scattered around the world and then the very next thing you say is that *you* were shocked to find that there are Finns in your country? Are you certain that you are not just merely projecting your own amazement and then taking that as to be the feeling of a general Finn? I for one am not shocked to hear that some Finns have travelled and moved out of this country.

"And the funny thing is that although they look different they are welcome and free."

Really? Are you certain that no Finns will ever experience any kind of racism when walking as a white caucasian in your native country? I feel that I can say with certainty that some blacks will look upon on whites with suspicion and other kinds of negative feelings, due to various reasons in various points of their lives, just like some whites look upon blacks due to different reasons. Racism is an universal phenomenon, not just involving blacks.

"Finns need to be welcoming and friendly to outsiders.Above all they need to learn other ways of building self esteem, like teaching their children respect,caring for their old parents,caring for their neighbour, not feeling jeolus about what the other person has achieved,being friendlier, spending more time with their children and family not just at joulu or any other holiday, learning more about other cultures."

And who are you to say what we should do and why? Who are you to say that we don't care for our parents and children? Who are you to say that we are not learning about other cultures? How much energy have you put on learning our culture and language, since you are the one who lives here, in our homeland?

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MissyZ8513.2.2010 10:51

u are right too..

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MissyZ8513.2.2010 10:52

my comment was to jj

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Facetious but correct. Ååååå2.7.2009 12:34

’ straightshit’ – I have the same view.

When I moved to Finland 12 years ago, people always asked: "Are you accustomed to the Finnish culture?”

Culture - where it is? Is it a man running down a woman at the door of a shop? Is it when the kids trample on the meal table? Is it a young man sitting in a bus and an old woman standing? Is it, as well as the adult does not know the words "Hello" and "Thank you"?
The main word is “V ! “ everywhere!

Feast day is Saturday. Then have to drink to the memory loss. The main streets look like after urinary competitions.

It’s a pity that Finnish nation do not have friends and they do not respect their parents.
Elderly make suicide every other day in Finland. The reason is loneliness and depression.

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Kirjoittanut: ...... / 27.4.09 / klo 11:53
”kauheeta yleistämistä! :o hanki elämä kuule.. oikeesti :o” – --------------- Why ” terrible generalization!”? Guest notes what you themselves do not note. Take off your pink glasses! The truth is sometimes painful.

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Kirjoittanut: .............................. / 10.5.09 / klo 21:18:
” ->> people who don't want to go work can live for free if they want …” ------------Oh yeah – and is it normal?

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Well atleast we do summer is the best 2.7.2009 19:43

have freedom to do and say what ever we want. So if you dont like Finland you r free to go. Maybe someday I will.

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Freedom to go… freedom to stay3.7.2009 11:50

“So if you dont like Finland you r free to go.”

Maybe I don’t LIKE everything but I LOVE Finland. Here is my lovely home in beautiful place we have built with my husband.

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finns are backward african boy16.7.2009 18:49

finns are the coldest people on the planet and they are selffish and jealosy. They have very little knowlegde about other poleple and cultures and often assume they are superior to other peple. Eg they think an african cannot use anything with a switch, they have to first explain it to them. This way they make fools of themselves and expose their shallowness and lack of the real world outside the sauna. This way they never get to know peolple for what they are instead they either see someone who is pissed of with their behavior (and ll accuse you of not cooperating instead) or they ll see a bootlicker (in the reality someone who is desperate) and they ll take him for sub human.
Never expect a finn to have guilt or show compassion or simple good will eg look at the industries serving old people. They are just there to suck them dry.evn an ordinary finn ll never visit his bedridden father they just wait for the day he dies and claim his belongings.

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So, yäktyyppiKäyttäjän viestit26.7.2009 00:18

you met those bastards as well. I'm a local and I don't like them either. There are many nice ones too, but you have to find them first. And if a Finn is sober, don't expect any public show of emotion. That is a no no. Big one. Privately we can be extremely emotional, especially when drunk. Or gay.

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My boy friend must be an exception26.7.2009 07:20

He speaks about his feelings all the time and gives hugs like other Finns shed swear words. And he never drinks! I suspect I may have found the only Finn who's like that! And he's not even a young man but middle aged.

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Sounds like me. yäktyyppiKäyttäjän viestit26.7.2009 10:10

Congratulations.

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Just so you know Mr. S3.8.2009 02:29

Most Finns consider warmth and compassion a weakness, and being attached to your parents after you're 25 means that you never grew up. Most Finnish parents are authoritarian and controlling and just want to exploit their children if they are "sensitive", so the children steer clear of their parents in adulthood.
A "bootlicker" is a person who can't come up with something to provide for themselves and is considered stupid and servile. And for the not co-operating part, if you are not here to get on with the program, the attitude is usually "get the f* out". The Finnish Army is a huge part of Finnish culture, particularly the management style which may be perceived as authoritarian and a "steam roller" type if you know what I mean. Then again the workplace is not a democracy and the boss is the one who takes the risks so it makes sense.

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The Finns (and I'm one of them)3.8.2009 11:16

have this strange attitude, it seems, that they cannot change anything in their society and that those in power cannot be influenced. I think there is a passivity in our mentality, unwillingness to cause ripples, complaining only when nobody is listening.

In Finland people obey the laws, obey the government, obey the police, obey all the officials, and have the illusion that all those people have the citizens' best interest in heart. They may vote, but what's the use of that? You only have so many candidates in only so many parties to choose from, and they are all the same. There is little real public debate in Finland. Everything is left for the big brother to look after.

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'obey the laws'... LOL...4.8.2009 15:05

I wonder do you ever read daily newspapers? It's very often one sees headlines about not so honest, educated well-to-do-finncitizens. Involved in frauds with taxation etc criminal business transactions and activities.

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I haven't read Finnish papers5.8.2009 00:51

for nearly twenty years. I guess I'm speaking about the Finland I used to know. Perhaps the country is different now.

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Can you read Finnish? If you can...5.8.2009 13:34

where ever you are you have access to finnish newspapers via internet. At least you can catch up on major news. www.iltasanomat.fi www.iltalehti.fi www.hs.fi or you can just write the name of the publication in the googles search box and press enter. Good luck! And yes, not all Finnish citizens are honest, don't know if they ever were...?!?

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Iltasanomat is not my13.8.2009 23:22

cup of tea, nor am I all that interested in Finnish papers in general. This Suomi24 discussion forum is just about the only place I get 'news' from Finland and practise my language.

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Just a penny Anti-hypocrite13.8.2009 08:51

And how about African homicides and genocides and rapes and corruptions ?? Twat..... just live your life.

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susan berner femmesusan@aol.com21.7.2009 08:57

I read your entry on Finland, and laughed til I cried. My mom is Finnish with 12 brothers & 1 sister, Elmi---the brothers are Toivo, Oiva, Arvo, Eino, Nilo,Sulo, John, Bill, Kenny, Laurie, Harold, and 1.. I can't remember at this time, ha, ha,

My Grammpa came from Helsinki, where he met my gramma Sel'inaa. They came to the U.S.A. in the late 30's or early 40's-and made a farm in michigan, a cold farming town, I think he worked in the copper mines then. His name was Erick Vuorenmaa, he lived until 95 and worked like a dog all his life. He was funny and drank , and drank, and milked the cows, and there were chickens, and 2 pigs
-and sauna every sunday and wednesday.

We would go there every summer, until I grew up.-we were from the 'city' Chicago, and they thought we were gangsters. Oh the mentality !!!
EVERYBODY drank, and drank and were predjudice, so much.
Especially the 'moosties'.
So much you said is true. My mom (92) is so racist, along with them all.
My gramma, was crabby all the time---I never saw her laugh.-Most of my uncles were nice to us neices & nephews, -but not all.
Every body worked and worked and got drunk all the time.
They thought it was normal.
Did you learn English in school?--
I think my gramma was crabby because she had so many kids., and my grampa would not eat with out Veeleeah, (can't spell it, but you know it.)
They were so set in their ways, not to let any one in their group.
We learned so little finnish, my mom still speaks it and all the brothers.

Did you know it is considered one of the most hardest languages in the world ?
Every thing you said has so much truth.

No, your country is socialist, too many taxes, and the government takes too much of Finns money.-because they let them.

I think our president stinks here and wants to make our country the same.
Buska.

They like to kill dear,there, and eat venison.I hated it, but I had such a good time there as a kid....it was a different world.

Let me know if you get this, and don't write me drunk-I'm old enough to be your "I-Dee'
Bay- va-
Mrs Susan

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Getting drunk abnormal? civis europaeus15.12.2009 18:05

"Every body worked and worked and got drunk all the time.
They thought it was normal."

It is normal, in many places in the world. Just because drinking more often is abnormal in the fundamentalist hypocrite pilgrim society in the US, doesn't mean that enjoying a drink would be abnormal to the human kind at large (or notable parts thereof). While for you drinking is something that degenerate alcoholists and criminals do, for many others it is a way of relaxing or coping with the surroundings.

Many European cultures include long traditions of drinking - even that of your (or your neighbour's) ancestors from England, Scotland and Ireland. The Spanish enjoy their sangria, Italians and French their wine. The Germans - their evening after work consists of TV soccer and a beer or ten.

Drinking so much as to get drunk is a bit less common in many places, but peoples from countries like Russia, the Baltic countries, Finland and Ireland all enjoy that as well. I bet even Northern Canadians and Alaskans love a drink, too. You see a pattern now: where it's cold, dark and wet nine months a year, alcohol is more or less a normal part of life.

When you say your grandparents thought drinking was normal - well, yes, it was. The fact that all your neighbours in the US are abstinent, God-fearing Calvinists, doesn't mean that for your grandparents it wasn't normal to drink. Indeed, isn't the USA supposed to be all about mixing up races and cultures. So, whatever heritage the immigrants bring with them, it surely is normal.

By the way, if you are condemning the idea that in many countries getting drunk is normal, then you should start off by looking at yourself in the mirror. After all, to many (most?) Americans eating crap for food (what you got, McDonald's, Subway, Pizza Hut and all other places serving plastic and preservatives on a platter), polluting the air with massive cars and inefficient industrial solutions, carrying guns on the streets and not caring too much about anything is the normal way of going about.

We all have our faults, and all of our habits have a downside to them. However, the Finns are not alone with their preference for a drink, and surely it is far from abnormal to get drunk after work.

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you got it right ..-...28.7.2009 01:58

That was just what I think about Finland and finnish people. I think Finland is so negative and cold place to be in. So much racism, hate, prejudgice and inequality. If you say hello to a random stranger, you will be considered as little weird or a foreigner. And the most common response is a blank amazed gaze and some grumbling. Of course there are some exceptions and thank god to that.

People aren´t well mentally but still it´s very difficult to get proper treatment. Also the healthcare system doesn´t work at the moment, especially in smaller cities. And they say that it´s like winning in the lottory to be born in Finland. It´s far from it. Oh, and the law system. It´s totally off. You can do basically everything and still get away with it. Beat someone up, rape a little kid or kill someone and you´ll probably just get the minimum sentence. Except when you try to avoid taxes or something else that is associated with money. That´s a totally different chapter. Then you´re definately going to jail for a ridiculously long time compared to the action. I would say that Finland´s almost completely rotten. If I would have said this someone in person, I probably would have get beaten up and left on the ground because everyone thinks that it´s not their business. I don´t know if this negativity and things being bad part of finnish character or an epidemic that is all over the world.

In the end I have to say that not everything´s so fucked up. We have a beautiful nature (in some places). There´s enough food and fresh water for everyone.

But hey, at least we have an awesome summer...

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Finnish justice system civis europaeus15.12.2009 18:39

"Oh, and the law system. It´s totally off. You can do basically everything and still get away with it. Beat someone up, rape a little kid or kill someone and you´ll probably just get the minimum sentence. Except when you try to avoid taxes or something else that is associated with money."

You've been fooled by the scandal media. There's actually nothing wrong with the Finnish justice system. It's just that there are too many assaults and batteries as well as rapings of "minors", and too active a system of law enforcement. Whereas in the US and most of Europe even batteries are settled out-of-court or by civil actions, in Finland the state has to intervene and prosecute publicly. That derives from the Nordic social model whereby the state takes care of (i.e. serves) the people.

As a result, not everyone can be thrown in jail upon their first offence as there are not enough jails. Now, recidivists and serious offenders do go to jail - but the scandal media does well in neglegting that. They just publish news on whenever someone has been let off on a conditional sentence (i.e. sentence without prison time) or has been sentenced otherwise very mildly.

And what comes to child molesters - well, in case of true paedophilism, the offender will be locked up, either in jail or in a high security mental hospital. What you read in the scandal newspapers is not about that, however. According to the law, you can be tried for child molestation if you're 18 and make out with a 15-year-old. That is absurd to many foreigners as it is just normal that kids around that age go out and explore sexuality.

Most cases of child molestation are about a 18- to 21-year-old guy and a 14- to 16-year-old girl. When you read the newspapers, you will not know the facts of the case. But I can assure you the facts go something like this: the girl and guy went out or met at a party. They both got a bit too drunk. They went somewhere private and started kissing. The guy made a move and touched the girl intimately or had sex with her. The next morning the girl, sobered up again, got second thoughts and went to the police.

Now, according to the criminal code, regardless of the circumstances, touching intimately a "child" of age of 15 or less can be punishable, and it will have to be tried in court. As these things happen all the time and everywhere (even in other countries), it is no surprise that the prisons would be filled up to the roof if every drunken fool had to be locked up for going on second or third base with a teenage girl. Instead, if they are first-timers, they're let out on a conditional sentence. Then the scandal newspapers write in big capital letters how the Finnish justice system is rotten.

Finally, what comes to the harsh sentences on financial and white-collar crimes: in the last decades there has been a move towards economic freedom (the European Union, globalisation, internet banking and electronic money transfers...), and with that the threat of crimes such as fraud, deceit and e-robberies has been increasing. Some years ago the Finnish Ministry of Justice put on its agenda a plan to give a clear message that such crimes will not be tolerated in Finland.

According to criminologist theory, a number of factors render financial crimes severely punishable. The most important ones are that usually (always?) they are highly pre-meditated and planned; they have far-reaching consequences on the welfare of the people; and the offenders often will remain in possession of their hidden criminal gains (millions of euro). In order to tackle high-profile financial crimes, the cost/benefit equilibrium has to be shifted on the cost side: otherwise, committing a 20-million euro fraud is easier if the risk includes just a few months in jail.

This reasoning is not peculiar to Finland. Instead, it's the same pretty much in all Western countries. You should remember that in the US, B. Madoff was sentenced to 150 years in a maximum security prison. It is clear that he will never enjoy the criminal gains he was able to hide before getting caught.

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Sorry to hear Klabseus27.1.2010 18:20

Hello

I'm sorry to hear you have such bad experiences of living in Finland. I'm a native finnishman and I still must say that I really like my country (I like my friends and family, finnish nature my summerhouses, baltic sea lakes, lapland sauna etc.), though there are many stupid people in Finland. Fortunately Helsinki is such big city and therefore I have a chance to choose my friends :) (We also have lots of nice people in Finland, unfortunately those racist people will be more clearly seen in Finland) Think about a situation in a crowded train carriage, black man comes into a train and some drunk bastard will yel him some impolite things. All the others in the carriage are quiet maybe because they are shy or even afraid of that threateningly behaving person. Even in that case there exactly and only one bastard in a train! Most people in Helsinki are not racists, thats my point. By the way, are you racist against estonians and russians as you mentioned in your text. You should neather make generalizations I have met many nice people from estonia and russia.

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*Sigh* A girl from Finland17.7.2009 16:49

As I read these answers, I can't get anything more than sad. To think that everyone seem to think that everyone in Finland are like that. True, some of us are, but not everyone.

It may be true that we don't have almost any of our original coulture left, but can you blame us? I mean after all we've been trough: being in the center of warzone and being just parts of Sweden AND Russia... How do you think we're supposed to stay as we are after that?! Then add internet, religions...

But, I guess that I'm one of the lucky ones. The ones who have a good place to live, who didn't have to go trough too much bad things and appreciates what they have. I know about the things you have been talking about and I'm not saying that everything you have said wasn't true. But Finland is like one of those optic pictures, which you have to look in a certain way to see a different side of it. I know that I may sound naive, but I think that Finland is a great county, if you can look at it from the right angle. If you can't, that's your loss.

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A little correction A girl from Finland17.7.2009 16:58

When I said that 'everyone seems to think' I didn't mean everyone. I was just so furious that I kind of ignored and forgot about the good posts. I sicerely apologise about that.

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This is my country but I am 18.7.2009 20:17

proud of it.
This is a cold dark country. Walking today in Hesperia Park we saw only one wild rose,
no other flowers.

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your school project uberfenno19.7.2009 13:17

"What do you think about finnish people? Do you think they are all punch of drunken sweatsuit wearing people? I'm doing a schoolproject on the subject and I would appreciate your answers :) "

I would suggest that you would do a little more research on the subject than ask for opinions on suomi24. Most people on here are Finnish and you're asking 'what do you think about Finnish people'. You're likely to get stupid modest answers or racist comments from foreigners.

What if the answer is 'they are better than you gyppos, did your country fight the former Soviet Union in the 2nd world war like the Finns did?' What were you or your parents doing at the time? Which side was your country on in the second world war - the soviets or Finland? - The soviets or the free world?

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Well, mostly they are21.7.2009 15:58

OK. However some, pretending to be some kind of Finland's Swedes, give a very bad image of themselves. As if they were something better than the rest of the Finns.

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i'm in love23.7.2009 02:49

with an angelic Finn guy, so any answer I give would definitely be biased :)

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Hi Silvio6.8.2009 22:21

finnish people they are fucking stupid and crazy i wish i have never been adobted to this fucking shit country and spending 20 years of my childhood here...believe me it has made serious problems to me.
finns are a cave people,i haven t been able to socialize with them,only i have been able to socialize with people from other cultures.
Finns are very bitter and emotionally invalid people

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hi silvio6.8.2009 22:28

I am currently living in greece and people here have opinion that finnish people are too shy and it s cold like in siberia in finland.
They also think that people in finland are too hard to abroach socially.
First comment that i heard was that isn t it very cold and quiet there in finland when i first spoke that i have lived in finland
i am originally from greece and it s like day and night the culture and people
....normal-unnormal

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hi silvio6.8.2009 23:27

and for me it seems that finnish people are even so stupid that they cannot understand these things if you say to them.well what do they understand...nothing....

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loosen up - Silvio Black but Finnish2.1.2010 21:53

I should take You Silvio to sauna and to see an ice hockey game one day !

I am afraid that - You dont just speak any suomi ?

We could drink some salmiakki and then talk talk talk...

What do You say ? Do You like snow and winter sports at all ?

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thoughts just someone23.8.2009 19:09

Dear Silvio.

Have you ever considered why this is so? If you go about telling people how fucking stupid and crazy they are and how you hate at living here, do you think this will inspire friendship among anyone?

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silvio, chinese guy21.2.2010 20:15

putting aside what kind of people finns are, but you were adopted and raised by finns. i think you should be grateful for them instead of cursing and blaming.

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Upsetting to read Finnish Girl7.8.2009 16:43

It is very upsetting to read these comments from both Finnish and foreign people. I think people are very easy to categorize by their nationality and skin colour etc. It's a fact that different countries have their own culture and habits and that sometimes it's very difficult to adjust to culture different from your own. We have started a new era on this planet. Traveling is a hobby to people, I wish they could take the best out of it. It's easier for all of us to visit and work in different countries. That is a good thing and should be appreciated.

I know lots of Finnish people who don't like Finland. I also know foreign people who've tried to live in Finland and didn't enjoy it. And I do know both Finnish and foreign people who love the country and who love how well things work here. That's mostly why I think it's down to ones personality whether or not they like it here. No matter where you go you face difficulties in your life. You meet people that you don't quite like and you meet people who you love. I hope the world was better place and we could enjoy it no matter what we do. Unfortunately it's not always that way and every single one of us just have to take the best out of it.

We have almost 6 million people here in Finland. I love to meet foreign people and I love to learn from other countries. I envy people who are able to go abroad and work there. I've done it myself but I've now started a family here. There is a difference between jealousy and enviousness. I would encourage anyone I meet to go and search places abroad. I also encourage foreign people to come check Finland.

6 million is not a lot. But it's an amount that can hold lots and lots of different kind of personalities. I, as Finn, am obviously very sad to hear what some other people think of us. But I can understand full well that Finland can be tough for foreign and even Finnish people themselves.
Wish a pleasant life for anyone who arrives here from another country! Hope you can find some lovely things and you meet nice people as well!

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Emotionally invalid, someone said8.8.2009 05:52

and I think it describes our nature so well. It has taken me years of living abroad to even begin to open up to other people and enjoy life, trust others and expect that they are mainly friendly. There is a sadly pessimistic streak in our national culture. We have poor self esteem. We think that others laugh at us because there is basically something wrong with us.

Or that's how things were. I'm 46, and people of my age still mainly belong to the old school of Finns. The younger generation, however, has started to communicate with people around the world - Internet makes it easy for all of us now. I'm certain that our beautiful country will eventually be inhabited by a happy and well adjusted people.

Climate also has an effect on our personality. It's not so easy to socialise when it's cold outside and the last thing you want is to go and visit your neighbours. At summer even us Finns are happier and more talkative.

I hope that kindergartens and schools will do their utmost to help the younger generation to grow into human beings who can adjust living anywhere, with people from any culture - cosmopolitan people, people of the world.

My dearest friends are both Finnish and foreign. So are my enemies. I like to think I take people as individuals.

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*ashamed* Soon2BeAnAussie15.8.2009 22:04

Myötähäpeää tunnen ku luen joitakin näitä juttuja täältä, suomalaisten suomalaisista kirjottamia... Englanninkielen taito niin hakusalla monella... Punastuin häpeästä ja äkkiä pois. Siis eiköhän tuo avaajan kysymys ollu suunnattu ulkomaalaisille jokatapauksessa?
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Finland defending the free world swamee7.9.2009 09:58

I'm sorry but I couldn't be bothered to read all of the replies.

My opinion on the Finnish people is that they are very cool, they respect other peoples and they are proud of their independence.

The rest of the world were pretty much on the same side with the soviets while the Finns fought for their independence. Finland was, and is, the frontline between the civilized world and the Evil Empire.

During the 2nd world war, the Americans were high on marijuana and on the same side with the Soviets while Finland was defending the free world.

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a.s.16.9.2009 07:20

I was there in finland once upon a time and I dont know where else can be found suitable than that remote place for someone who is completely through with world and living? As if I was sinked very deeply in a grave, while still alive. Not any suicide would be probably that conscious, that resolute, that continuous and intractable.
Before i went there a friend of mine had said that people in finland have calm and deep souls. Who knows.. what lies at the bottom of it? impossible to find out..
The first weeks of my coming there i only spread fear and suspicion around. I dont know if they considered me as an agent or terrorist or something but i saw the fear in their face very clearly. I guess it was my black hair. Later, may be, when it is come to an agreement that neither i am "this" or "that", that i am actually nothing at all, i started to see eyes opened with amazement and lips twisted with sarcasm instead of wrinkled foreheads with being startled. I can't imagine anything more or as bothersome. My most simple, plain, natural movements appeared them as odd as a clown's somersaults and springs in the circus.
When i spoke to them they were gawping at me as if they didnt understand anything. Then, they were murmuring something to one another, and this time i knew that i am understood, but disapproved.
Instructions, manners, good models they are all temporary things and there is no possibility for a human to get changed unless the environment change. Every evening i have been thinking the earth come to an end. And for this reason, every morning, when i opened my eyes, i was disappointed. "one more day?" , and "which day!"
Weariness and monotony were in the air, it simply gets you and you just start to become one of that people. I really used to loose my time sence, there and then, since everyday was exactly the same. Only saturdays you go to a bar, drink as much as you can till you forget who you are, and hardly find the way home.
It is said committing suiside is common in finland, i think they dont need to do anything special because living there is simply a suicide.

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What an experience you had!16.9.2009 11:30

You're describing your days in Finland so vividly I almost feel I'm there again; a feeling I do not enjoy.

Deep and calm souls? Well, it's calm, deep at the bottom of a pitch. Trapped down there, no way up and out. Is that what we are? perhaps so. I escaped to another country when I was young. After years abroad, when I returned for a visit, I was stared at as if I was something strange. The only feelings that were expressed were negative. No joy, no delight in meeting again, no curiosity about my years overseas. Their world was that little town, that little country. Anything else was unimaginable.

I loved the weather in Finland. It was the people I ran away from and still feel reluctant to return to.

What a shame you were treated so stupidly. I suppose you stayed in a small town. Larger towns are slightly more civilised, i think.

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Youngster23.9.2009 13:01

I don't understand why most of the writers here tell only negative things about Finns. 'Cause I think all the Finns aren't drunks, racists or just all-cold. In our culture it's unusual to talk to a stranger in a buss stop but still there are youngsters who gives their place to an old person and also those doens't have any problem with foreigners.

When I'm in a buss and ask for someone what time is it, I don't have to afraid that that person says "painu vittuun" to me. Those who talks like that just have an attitudeproblem.

So I don't think Finns are so bad. :)

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such hostility...18.10.2009 22:39

I wonder why it is that even us Finns ourselves feel such hostility towards our culture? Are we really so bad? Do we feel so worthless that we cannot stand those who are different (the vast majority of the people in this world)? Finland is only a small country. Why such hostility on both sides? Are we racists, or are those foreigners such who ridicule us?

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Finland today is a maddening megamachine Finnish looser22.11.2009 18:10

As you can see, Finns try to keep their heads together by telling themselves that they are really living in the most wonderful country in the world. They're like: hey, we have quality services and free education, hurray!! But none of that changes the fact that the society is just one maddening megamachine. Nothing matters in Finland nowadays except work and consumption and keeping up appearances for neighbours and relatives. There is nothing easier in this country than becoming a washed up basket case. Anyone who doesn't immediately succeed in life is considered a complete failure and a burden to the rest of society, which is why many young people just give up and get diagnosed with something in order to fit into at least some category.

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What? MP6.12.2009 19:54

Finnish people are really nice, I have been there 20 + times and not just to big cities. I find them to be kind, friendly and polite. sure they may be a little reserved at times. that is good, it's nice to find people who are not always shouting and talking crap.

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meep17.12.2009 20:34

The people who claim that Finland is totally a shit country are often those people, who didn’t succeed at school, didn’t really have friends or did never get a good job. The nimrods and dropouts, you know. People like that often get bitter and it is so very easy to accuse the society for their failed life.

”Straightshit” is probably one, though I don’t really believe that he would be older than 18. His thoughts are incomplete, naïve and just sound exactly like the thoughts of a generic teenage dropout anarchist. No offence, but his English skills also doubt me. Can someone who speaks English that poorly actually pass the primary school? Oh well.

There are a lot of people in Finland who claim to hate their country and keep saying they want to move somewhere else. And who are they actually?
For example Johanna Tukiainen, the mocked erotic dancer and the secret lover of Ilkka Kanerva, the ex-member of the Parliament.
Arto Paasilinna, a writer who got a lot of negative publicity for messing around drunk.
The teenagers who didn’t get to the schools or universities they wanted to get in.
The people (the immigrants AND the Finnish people) who don’t get jobs easily because of their weak linguistic abilities or their lack of studies. And the list goes on…
And why don’t these people move abroad if living in Finland simply sucks? That’s probably because living wouldn’t really be easier for them in any other country…

Yes, violence is quite usual in Finland but it doesn’t mean that people ACCEPT it. Violence usually happens at the homes of people, and that’s why no one isn’t really able to intrude, if the victim won’t reveal the violence herself/himself. Alcoholism is also usual, but mostly in the small, distant cities and among the unschooled underclass.

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Prejudices someone said17.12.2009 23:03

are a way to belong; people who share prejudices feel they are "us" against "them" they are suspicious about. I'm sad about the Finnish culture and never was happy there. I'm not a teenager, nor a dropout, not stupid. I had work in Finland and am working in my new country, happily. I left because I wasn't happy in Finland. I'm staying put here because this is a good place to be. Returning to Finland would be a step backwards, and I have no reason to return. I look forward. I am a well functioning member of this society. Lonely, perhaps, and still don't feel perfectly at home, but living alone here is a lot better than living in my old familiar circumstances in Finland. I watched the movie "Being There" in which Peter Sellers portrays how an autistic person can be lucky in life. Perhaps Finnish people, in all their autistic tendencies, have been very lucky to make a success of their country, at least in material sense, if not spiritual. We are such oddballs that other peoples think we must be better than them, as nobody can really be as stupid as a Finn appears. And why not? Let's have them keep their illusions.

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You cant even drive a car after two beers Metro Police27.12.2009 19:52

Have You ever been to Suomi ? In Stockholm - St Peterburg and - Tallinn tourist from Finland are different - than thoseo who go to work every morning.

You must remeber that 80% of pop is still working every day.

Work is work everywhere !

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finland4eva30.12.2009 04:57

*snif snif* all that shit bout finland really hurts me. I love finland but i know that heres many things wrong. But think bout africa: Starving people without clean water. None of africans countries is richer than finland. There is slums in every african country. Asian: only few rich countrys, very bad equality, slums etc. America: 2 rich countries. in other countries theres quite same problems as i said before about asian and africa. Well europe, theres poor and homeless people by mediterranian and alot of troubles in Middle-east. SO Finland is pretty awesome country I LOVE living here.

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Finnishesarenotsoracistsasmanythinks FinlandWillNeverFall30.12.2009 05:01

Sum1 said that finnishes hates gays. well in some countries someones have killed gays and so... WHATS WRONG WITH U PEOPLE. FINLAND IS DA BEST!!!

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suomi is much easier to foreighners Cooper Tust30.12.2009 21:01

I just wonder why all english people doesnt speak suomi ?
It would be much easier if You just start to speak suomi - if you know what i mean !

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Spudir Balir30.12.2009 21:37

Cooper Tust is trolling. I hope FinlandWillNeverFall is trolling too, because, oh well, what the fuck am I reading.

There's good and bad things in any country, or can you name me a country without any racists or mean people. I guess you can't. I just don't think Finland is the worst at all.

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to be or not to be Black but Finnish27.1.2010 11:58

Racism is quite interesteing word - that has a different meaning in every country !

I suggest that people would use - being different more !

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I wonder if Finns hate each other so much because...27.1.2010 22:40

they all all so 'different' from the rest of the world? Finalnd is such a beautiful country, and in many ways well organised, but people's attitudes make it a hard, if not depressing place to live. And I'm white, and born there. It must be difficult for you, as a black person. On the other hand, you're helping to improve our prejudices just by being here and being an interesting person. Little by little this country will open up to the rest of the humanity, one hopes.

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Yeah Greep29.1.2010 21:21

As a native Finn I wish to answer. One note though, I am not a typical Finnish man.
Here's my list of Finnish issues:

- fine-grained racism, being a foreigner in Finland means you are not taken so seriously
- extremely tightass pennysavers, eberybody saving ass and dick off
- alcoholism a big problem
- nobody, I repeat NOBODY cares about Finnish teenagers, see above, home, summer hut and
DVD set more important
- Finns never spend no money (zero, zeeeeeeero) money to clothes (as u can see that easily)
- Finnsih women also only thinks about money and security, but at the same time dreams about
rich foreigners which would not be like Finnish men

Fucking cold and homogeneous tribe. Sad but true.

In summer time most are a bit more relaxed.

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Leave immediately! from subtropics29.1.2010 22:54

Come to a sunny place where people are friendly.

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They are awesome. Annet038.3.2010 19:35

I was in Finland(Helsinki) last summer.And so must say it's the best country I have evere seen.As a remembered,finns were so friendly.Actually I haven't seen any drunken finns in the street.On the contrary,they did too much sport,always running,riding and so on))
Once,I was strolling along the park with my father,it was befor football Russia-Finland(and i'm from russia) so one finn came to us,talked and wished good luck.It was great!
Well,in other places they were pleasent too,and I've got only fine memories from your country.)Anyway,when returned to Russia I decieded that I must now finnish and so I'm learning it now and will go for tranning in April.Hope I'll know it soon/
So,thank you Finland for cute holidays,And you're lucky to be finn.:)

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When in Rome act like the Romans do... Maassa maan tavalla SLAPYOFAIS9.3.2010 00:13

Both immigrants and refugees in Finland have largely themselves to blame for any hate they recieve some people come here and pay the better and safer life they get here for free back with being racists themselves and disrespect for their hosts us the Finnish people
I have many friends of many colors I have no problems with people who are respectful towards the culture and ways of the country they visit or move into respect the people and the country and the laws of that country... learn the language yes its hard... too bad nothing good comes easy...
try to integrate you are not here to turn this into a frigin muslim backwaterland this is christian backwaterland
I'm not even religious but its OUR LAND OUR CULTURE OUR RELIGION you ARE IN NO POSITION TO MAKE DEMANDS ON HOW OUR CULTURE OFFENDS YOU YOU ARE HERE COS WE GIVE YOU A SAFE PLACE TO LIVE IN GET IT IN YOUR EFFIN HEADS THAT WHEN WE FINALLY GET ENOUGH OF YOU... WE WILL JUST KICK YOU THE FCK OUT NO MATTER IF YOU GET KILLED WHERE EVERY YOU WILL BE DEPORTED TO...
We want good people here we dont need any frigin parasites if you are a goodhearted person I dont care if you are purple I will like you... but disrespect my country and our ways and I will smack the archaic pagan culture right out of you and that doesnt make me a racist it just makes me a person who takes no crap from people with no rights to give us crap...
I know there are pure racists here too those guys are prettymuch everywhere...
You just need to remember being a racist is not a phenomenon limited to "white" most blacks I meet hate the white people fantasize about taking a white mans wife xD how effed up in the head you have to be to have that kind of poop in your brain? the also have several insulting names for white people whitey, cracka... some that come to mind...
I'd like to see you get off your whiny hypocritical high horse and face reality you want to be treated good? then deserve it... moving to a country and hating its inhabitants isnt gonna cut it anyone with brains would realize this... oops I called you stupid guess what... you are...
I think its time for Finnish people to stop bending over and taking stuff in the rear for these demands for the people we allow to enter out country and start making demands our selves...

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Jatkoa Edelliseen SLAPYOFAIS9.3.2010 00:16

lets copy Australia's immigration laws and procedures lets see if we get proper respect then when we demand they learn our language and can support themselves.. and deport any foreign criminals the instant they commit anything more severe than shoplifting... any violence = out...
Then they learn proper respect before they are allowed among general population and we can also add psychological profiling as a part of the entry qualification... we weed out alot of the wackjobs we also put all kinds of fees (copy Australias) on paperwork etc to cover the costs of these things damn if you pay 10k euro to get here you can pay 5k to get in...
and you black man saying we dont want to hire black people here... yes because you are lingually impaired... learn Finnish... stop whining... geez... if you are good at what you do and a nice person I say most wont be bothered by your skin color it is your own lack of required skills and your attitude problem that prevents your employment...
so a checklist for you who want to be a part of this nation and feel at home here
1. Respect towards this country its ways, laws and its inhabitants
2. Will to integrate ofcourse you practice your religions and cultural things in your homes and your own places to do so do not tell us we cant have bibles in hotels or christmas celebrations in schools cos it offends you... you are in NO PLACE to make demands... we have gotten enough of that you need to know your place... this integration also means learning our language... also teaching your children that we are just as good people as the people of your religion and color are that is what our schools and most parents teach... not only to be tolerant but to embrace people of any culture and color ofcourse not everyone sees it this way but I have yet to see a parent that teaches their children racism... even people with racist views themselves teach their children to be better... and thats bloody amazing I wish I'd see this kind of behavior from the other side of the fence...
3. A positive attitude and a drive to take a little crap you hating every Finn cos some give you shit makes you a racist and a hypocrite if I did what so many people who come here from whatever hellhole and hated every race that ever did anything bad I'd hate everyone...
4. If these things seem unreasonable to you ... GTFO or get the fck out as they say thanks if you read this far and baibai.
Ja sille Suomalaiselle vinkujalle jonka mielestä on niin paskaa kansaa ja paska maa kuten eräs ystäväni sanoi mene asumaan ulkomaille pitemmäksi aikaa tulee suurimmalle osalle ikävä kotiin tässä maassa ei oo muuta paskaa ku meidän maan johto jolla ei oo mitään parempaa tekemist ku vetää ihan kohtuutonta palkkaa ja palkankorotuksia samaan aikaan kehottaen kansaa maltillisuuteen palkankorotustoiveissaan... muah tyhmiä me ollaan kun ei olla barrikaadeilla...

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