Paljon on puhetta kreationismista, mutta en ole vielä nähnyt tällä palstalla varsinaista luomiskertomusta, joten laitettakoon siitä muutamat keskeisimmät jakeet tähän. Erityisesti kannattaa kiinnittä huomiota sanoihin "kunkin lajinsa mukaan." kasvit ja eläimet luotiin siis erikseen lajinsa mukaan ja myös lissänymään lajinsa mukaan. Tämä kumoaa evoluutioteorian, jonka mukaan lajit olisivat kehittyneet toisistaan.
11. Ja Jumala sanoi: Kasvakoon maa vihantaa, ruohoja, jotka tekevät siementä, ja hedelmäpuita, jotka lajiensa mukaan kantavat maan päällä hedelmää, jossa niiden siemen on. Ja tapahtui niin.
20. Ja Jumala sanoi: Viliskööt vedet eläviä olentoja, ja lentäkööt linnut maan päällä, taivaanvahvuuden alla.
21. Ja jumala loi suuret merieläimet ja kaikkinaiset liikkuvat, vesissä vilisevät elävät olennot, kunkin lajinsa mukaan, ja kaikkinaiset siivekkäät linnut, kunkin lajinsa mukaan. Ja Jumala näki, että se oli hyvä.
22. Ja Jumala siunasi ne sanoen: Olkaa hedelmälliset ja lisääntykää ja täyttäkää meren vedet, ja linnut lisääntykööt maan päällä.
24. Ja Jumala sanoi: Tuottakoon maa elävät olennot, kunkin lajinsa mukaan, karjaeläimet ja matelijat ja metsäeläimet, kunkin lajinsa mukaan. Ja tapahtui niin.
25. Jumala teki metsäeläimet, kunkin lajinsa mukaan, ja karjaeläimet, kunkin lajinsa mukaan, ja kaikki maan matelijat, kunkin lajinsa mukaan. Ja Jumala näki, että se oli hyvä.
26. Ja Jumala sanoi: Tehkäämme ihminen kuvaksemme, kaltaiseksemme; ja vallitkoot he meren kalat ja taivaan linnut ja karjaeläimet ja koko maan ja kaikki matelijat, jotka maassa matelevat.
27. Ja Jumala loi ihmisen omaksi kuvaksensa, Jumalan kuvaksi Hän loi heidät.
28. Ja Jumala siunasi heidät, ja Jumala sanoi heille: Olkaa hedelmälliset ja lisääntykää ja täyttäkää maa ja tehkää se itsellenne alamaiseksi ja vallitkaa meren kalat ja taivaan linnut ja kaikki maan päällä liikkuvat eläimet.
1.Moos1:11, 20-22, 24-28.
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- Holy Ghost
Creation of the World
In the begining there was only chaos. Then out of the void appeared Erebus, the unknowable place where death dwells, and Night. All else was empty, silent, endless, darkness. Then somehow Love was born bringing a start of order. From Love came Light and Day. Once there was Light and Day, Gaea, the earth appeared.
Then Erebus slept with Night, who gave birth to Ether, the heavenly light, and to Day the earthly light. Then Night alone produced Doom, Fate, Death, Sleep, Dreams, Nemesis, and others that come to man out of darkness.
Meanwhile Gaea alone gave birth to Uranus, the heavens. Uranus became Gaea's mate covering her on all sides. Together they produced the three Cyclopes, the three Hecatoncheires, and twelve Titans.
However, Uranus was a bad father and husband. He hated the Hecatoncheires. He imprisoned them by pushing them into the hidden places of the earth, Gaea's womb. This angered Gaea and she ploted against Uranus. She made a flint sickle and tried to get her children to attack Uranus. All were too afraid except, the youngest Titan, Cronus.
Gaea and Cronus set up an ambush of Uranus as he lay with Gaea at night. Cronus grabed his father and castrated him, with the stone sickle, throwing the severed genitales into the ocean. The fate of Uranus is not clear. He either died, withdrew from the earth, or exiled himself to Italy. As he departed he promised that Cronus and the Titans would be punished. From his spilt blood came the Giants, the Ash Tree Nymphs, and the Erinnyes. From the sea foam where his genitales fell came Aphrodite.
Cronus became the next ruler. He imprisoned the Cyclopes and the Hecatoncheires in Tartarus. He married his sister Rhea, under his rule the Titans had many offspring. He ruled for many ages. However, Gaea and Uranus both had prophesied that he would be overthrown by a son. To avoid this Cronus swallowed each of his children as they were born. Rhea was angry at the treatment of the children and ploted against Cronus. When it came time to give birth to her sixth child, Rhea hid herself, then she left the child to be raised by nymphs. To concel her act she wrapped a stone in swaddling cloths and passed it off as the baby to Cronus, who swallowed it.
This child was Zeus. He grew into a handsome youth on Crete. He consulted Metis on how to defeat Cronus. She prepaired a drink for Cronus design to make him vomit up the other children. Rhea convinced Cronus to accept his son and Zeus was allowed to return to Mount Olympus as Cronus's cupbearer. This gave Zeus the opertunity to slip Cronus the specially prepaired drink. This worked as planned and the other five children were vomitted up. Being gods they were unharmed. They were thankful to Zeus and made him their leader.
Cronus was yet to be defeated. He and the Titans, except Prometheus, Epimetheus, and Oceanus, fought to retain their power. Atlas became their leader in battle and it looked for some time as though they would win and put the young gods down. However, Zeus was cunning. He went down to Tartarus and freed the Cyclopes and the Hecatoncheires. Prometheus joined Zeus as well. He returned to battle with his new allies. The Cyclopes provided Zeus with lighting bolts for weapons. The Hecatoncheires he set in ambush armed with boulders. With the time right, Zeus retreated drawing the Titans into the Hecatoncheires's ambush. The Hecatoncheires rained down hundreds of boulders with such a fury the Titans thought the mountains were falling on them. They broke and ran giving Zeus victory.
Zeus exiled the Titans who had fought against him into Tartarus. Except for Atlas, who was singled out for the special punishment of holding the world on his shoulders.
However, even after this victory Zeus was not safe. Gaea angry that her children had been imprisoned gave birth to a last offspring, Typhoeus. Typhoeus was so fearsome that most of the gods fled. However, Zeus faced the monster and flinging his lighting bolts was able to kill it. Typhoeus was burried under Mount Etna in Sicily.
Much later a final challenge to Zeus rule was made by the Giants. They went so far as to attempt to invade Mount Olympus, piling mountain upon mountain in an effort to reach the top. But, the gods had grown strong and with the help of Heracles the Giants were subdued or killed. - Holy Ghost
In the beginning the earth was a bare plain. All was dark. There was no life, no death. The sun, the moon, and the stars slept beneath the earth. All the eternal ancestors slept there, too, until at last they woke themselves out of their own eternity and broke through to the surface.
When the eternal ancestors arose, in the Dreamtime, they wandered the earth, sometimes in animal form -- as kangaroos, or emus, or lizards -- sometimes in human shape, sometimes part animal and human, sometimes as part human and plant.
Two such beings, self-created out of nothing, were the Ungambikula. Wandering the world, they found half-made human beings. They were made of animals and plants, but were shapeless bundles, lying higgledy-piggledy, near where water holes and salt lakes could be created. The people were all doubled over into balls, vague and unfinished, without limbs or features.
With their great stone knives, the Ungambikula carved heads, bodies, legs, and arms out of the bundles. They made the faces, and the hands and feet. At last the human beings were finished.
Thus every man and woman was transformed from nature and owes allegiance to the totem of the animal or the plant that made the bundle they were created from -- such as the plum tree, the grass seed, the large and small lizards, the parakeet, or the rat.
This work done, the ancestors went back to sleep. Some of them returned to underground homes, others became rocks and trees. The trails the ancestors walked in the Dreamtime are holy trails. Everywhere the ancestors went, they left sacred traces of their presence -- a rock, a waterhole, a tree.
For the Dreamtime does not merely lie in the distant past, the Dreamtime is the eternal Now. Between heartbeat and heartbeat, the Dreamtime can come again. - Holy Ghost
At first there was only Nun, the primal ocean of chaos that contained the beginnings of everything to come. From these waters came Ra who, by himself, gave birth to Shu and Tefnut. Shu, the god of air, and Tefnut, the goddess of moisture gave birth to Geb and Nut, the earth god and the sky goddess. And so the physical universe was created. Men were created from Ra's tears. They proved to be ungrateful so Ra, and a council of gods, decided they should be destroyed. Re created Sekhmet to do the job. She was very efficient and slaughtered all but a few humans, when Ra relented and tricked her into stopping. Thus was the present world created.
Against Ra's orders, Geb and Nut married. Ra was incensed and ordered Shu to separate them, which he did. But Nut was already pregnant, although unable to give birth as Ra had decreed she could not give birth in any month of any year. Thoth, the god of learning, decided to help her and gambling with the moon for extra light, was able to add five extra days to the 360-day calendar. On those five days Nut gave birth to Osiris, Horus the Elder, Set, Isis, and Nephthys successively. Osiris became the symbol of good, while Set became the symbol of evil. And thus the two poles of morality were fixed once and for all. Voisitko kertoa omin sanoin ja perustellen, miten luotiin kasvit, eläimet ja ihminen - kuten lupailet otsikossa? Lainaamalla Raamattua piiloudut sen taakse kuin mikäkin mammanpoika - pelkäätkö kirjoittaa jotain omasta päästä? Nyt kritiikki kohdistuu Raamattuun ja se on teikäläisten kanssa yhtä tyhjän kanssa, koska Raamattuhan on "erehtymätön". Siis voisitko etsiä luonnosta ja todellisuudesta todisteet ja perustelut sille, että 1. kaikki on luotu 2. tuo on luomisjärjestys ja sitten tehdä aloituksen?
- tieteenharrastaja
Vahvistaisin tätä samaa kysymystä:
"Näin luotiin kasvit, eläimet ja ihminen"
Luomisen tavasta Raamattu sanoo vain, että "Jumala loi/teki,,", ja kertomuksen rinnakkaisversiossa myös "..sanoi, kasvakoon maa..". Tarkemmasta luomisen tavasta ei siis siinä ole tietoa. Vai onko sinulla?
Lajeista sanotaan vain "lajinsa mukaan". Missään (paitsi ihmisestä) ei sanota, että kunkin erikseen. Vai löydätkö tämän jostakin?
- kvasi2
Kopioituminen näyttää olevan yleinen periaate, esim. monimaailman haarautuminen, eliöiden lisääntyminen, solun jakautuminen, DNA-molekyylin kahdentuminen, geenin dublikaatio ... .
- LocoMotive
Aika karkea suunnitelma..Ei varmaan joutanut pohtimaan jokaista kasvia erikseen tms.liekö ulkoistanut taikomishommia enkeleille ? "Sinä saat suunnitella ja taikoa kissankellot ja timotein, katsokin että niistä tulee passeleita omaan lokeroonsa"
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