From: Phil Jones
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: A quick question
Date: Wed Dec 10 10:14:10 2008
Ben,
Haven’t got a reply from the FOI person here at UEA. So I’m not
entirely confident the numbers are correct. One way of checking would be
to look on CA, but I’m not doing that. I did get an email
from the FOI person here early yesterday to tell me I shouldn’t be deleting emails -
unless this was ‘normal’ deleting to keep emails manageable!
McIntyre hasn’t
paid his £10, so nothing looks likely to happen re his Data Protection Act email.
Anyway requests have been of three types – observational data, paleo data
and who made IPCC changes and why. Keith has got all the latter – and
there have been at least 4. We made Susan aware of these – all came from
David Holland. According to the FOI Commissioner’s Office, IPCC is an
international organization, so is above any national FOI. Even if UEA holds
anything about IPCC, we are not obliged to pass it on, unless it has anything
to do with our core business – and it doesn’t! I’m sounding like Sir Humphrey here!
McIntyre often gets others to do the requesting, but requests and responses
all get posted up on CA regardless of who sends them.
On observational data, there have been at least 5 including a couple from
McIntyre. Others here came from Eschenbach and also Douglas Keenan.
The latter relate to Wei-Chyung Wang, and despite his being exonerated by
SUNY, Keenan has not changed his web site since being told the result by SUNY!
[1]http://www.informath.org/
The paleo data requests have all been to Keith, and here Tim and Keith reply.
The recent couple have come from McIntyre but there have been at least two
others from Holland.
So since Feb 2007, CRU is in double figures. We never get any thanks for putting
things up – only abuse and threats. The latest lot is up in the last 3-4 threads on
CA.
I got this email over the weekend – see end of this email. This relates to
what Tim sent back late last week. There was another one as well – a chatty
one saying why didn’t I respond to keep these people on CA quiet. I’ve
ignored both.
Finally, I know that DEFRA receive Parliamentary Questions from MPs to
answer. One of these 2 months ago was from a Tory MP asking how much
money DEFRA has given to CRU over the last 5 years. DEFRA replied that they
don’t give money – they award grants based on open competition. DEFRA’s system
also told them there were no awards to CRU, as when we do get something it is
down as UEA!
I’ve occasionally checked DEFRA responses to FOI requests – all from Holland.
Cheers
Phil
Kuten parlamentin tutkimusryhmäkin totesi, Jones et al rikkoivat lakeja salatessaan tietoja.
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: A quick question
Date: Wed Dec 10 10:14:10 2008
Ben,
Haven’t got a reply from the FOI person here at UEA. So I’m not
entirely confident the numbers are correct. One way of checking would be
to look on CA, but I’m not doing that. I did get an email
from the FOI person here early yesterday to tell me I shouldn’t be deleting emails -
unless this was ‘normal’ deleting to keep emails manageable!
McIntyre hasn’t
paid his £10, so nothing looks likely to happen re his Data Protection Act email.
Anyway requests have been of three types – observational data, paleo data
and who made IPCC changes and why. Keith has got all the latter – and
there have been at least 4. We made Susan aware of these – all came from
David Holland. According to the FOI Commissioner’s Office, IPCC is an
international organization, so is above any national FOI. Even if UEA holds
anything about IPCC, we are not obliged to pass it on, unless it has anything
to do with our core business – and it doesn’t! I’m sounding like Sir Humphrey here!
McIntyre often gets others to do the requesting, but requests and responses
all get posted up on CA regardless of who sends them.
On observational data, there have been at least 5 including a couple from
McIntyre. Others here came from Eschenbach and also Douglas Keenan.
The latter relate to Wei-Chyung Wang, and despite his being exonerated by
SUNY, Keenan has not changed his web site since being told the result by SUNY!
[1]http://www.informath.org/
The paleo data requests have all been to Keith, and here Tim and Keith reply.
The recent couple have come from McIntyre but there have been at least two
others from Holland.
So since Feb 2007, CRU is in double figures. We never get any thanks for putting
things up – only abuse and threats. The latest lot is up in the last 3-4 threads on
CA.
I got this email over the weekend – see end of this email. This relates to
what Tim sent back late last week. There was another one as well – a chatty
one saying why didn’t I respond to keep these people on CA quiet. I’ve
ignored both.
Finally, I know that DEFRA receive Parliamentary Questions from MPs to
answer. One of these 2 months ago was from a Tory MP asking how much
money DEFRA has given to CRU over the last 5 years. DEFRA replied that they
don’t give money – they award grants based on open competition. DEFRA’s system
also told them there were no awards to CRU, as when we do get something it is
down as UEA!
I’ve occasionally checked DEFRA responses to FOI requests – all from Holland.
Cheers
Phil
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