Johdonmukaista mitä-jos-olisi-spekulointia: Puolan ennakoiva invaasio Natsi-Saksaan 1933

Erinomaisia asialähteitä tuossa Jodel-linkissä, lieneeköhän lainailtu jostain toisaalta, sama se. Silkkaa asiaa kumminkin.

Joku antelias sielu selvästikin halunnut auttaa muita tiedonjanoisia pitämään ajattelun terässä nykyisen joka tuutista suurkorporaatioiden puskeman hengettömän muka-kapitalismin keskellä, joka ei ole aitoa vapaamarkkinataloutta saatika aitoa kilpailua nähnytkään.

Jodel nyt on formaatiltaan tyyliä minuutin-sätkä, Suomi24 enemmän vandalisoinpa-Roblox-seinää-graffitilla-säälittävät-amatöörit.

Anonyymi00005 kirjoitti:

Erinomaisia asialähteitä tuossa Jodel-linkissä, lieneeköhän lainailtu jostain toisaalta, sama se. Silkkaa asiaa kumminkin.

Joku antelias sielu selvästikin halunnut auttaa muita tiedonjanoisia pitämään ajattelun terässä nykyisen joka tuutista suurkorporaatioiden puskeman hengettömän muka-kapitalismin keskellä, joka ei ole aitoa vapaamarkkinataloutta saatika aitoa kilpailua nähnytkään.

Jodel nyt on formaatiltaan tyyliä minuutin-sätkä, Suomi24 enemmän vandalisoinpa-Roblox-seinää-graffitilla-säälittävät-amatöörit.

"Erinomaisia asialähteitä tuossa Jodel-linkissä, lieneeköhän lainailtu jostain toisaalta, sama se. Silkkaa asiaa kumminkin."

Aivan sama, vaikka olisi täältä tai Wikipediasta kopioitu, niin kauan kuin on kunnon sisältöä. :)

Niille, jotka eivät jostain syystä pysty avaamaan linkkiä:


□ The Polish plan for a "preventive war" against Germany in 1933

https://www.jstor.org/stable/25776646

□ The Polish Blitz, More than a Mere Footnote to History: Poland and Preventive War with Germany, 1933

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/09592290903455667

□ How Pilsudski nearly averted World War II

https://ampoleagle.com/how-pilsudski-nearly-averted-world-war-ii-p11868-1.htm

□ Magda Dercz,

First strike: how the Poles wanted to launch a ‘preventive war’ against Hitler’s Germany

Verkkoarkistoitu sittemmin lakkautetulta sivustolta:

https://web.archive.org/web/20240129192106/https://www.thefirstnews.com/article/first-strike-how-the-poles-wanted-to-launch-a-preventive-war-against-hitlers-germany-3447

□ Poland Daily History

Poland's plans on a pre-emptive war against Nazi Germany in 1934

Benjamin Lee haastattelee historioitsija Krzysztof Jabłonkaa.

https://youtu.be/Lfrsa2JXb2E?si=E-MmGnSzEuIzk7PF

□ Is Preventive War Ever Justified?

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/is-preventive-war-ever-justified_b_1652686

Artikkelista siteeratut osuudet, Jodelissa tilan puutteen vuoksi vain lyhyemmät osuudet:

》 Recognizing that Hitler was immune to normal diplomacy, Piłsudski began preparations for a preventive war. Unlike the situation in 1939, in March 1933, Poland was in a position to carry out this threat. As Hitler knew, the Polish army possessed more than 250,000 highly trained and well-equipped soldiers. Although in the initial stages of secretly rearming, in 1933 the German military had no modern weapons, namely airplanes, tanks, or armored cars, and according to the terms of the Versailles Treaty its army was limited to 100,000 men. Piłsudski was prepared to send Polish troops to occupy Danzig, East Prussia, and possibly Upper Silesia, while France would march through the Rhineland into the Ruhr. The move would expose the weakness of the boisterous young Nazi regime, humiliate Hitler, and possibly remove him from power. The occupying troops would then refuse to evacuate German territory until the Reich made assurances to honor the peace treaty.

...

... Poland, which had lost its brief military superiority, was attacked and overwhelmed by Germany in 1939. It will never be known if Piłsudski's preventive war could have eliminated the Nazi threat. What is known is that without it, millions of Poles were killed and the survivors condemned to another half century of enslavement.

》... just because counterfactual historic arguments are inherently controversial, it does not mean they are never valid. [Tähän kannattaakin kiinnittää enemmän huomiota.] One can make the reasonable case that preventive war against Hitler in 1933 would have altered history in a positive direction and might have spared Europe from the nightmare of WWII.《


Jos linkki ei muuten näy, se on myös tallennettuna tänne:

https://web.archive.org/web/20251013071811/https://share.jodel.com/post?postId=689c777b0c58c7a3ab1a7eb8&channel=copy


Olkaa hyvät. :)

Anonyymi00006 kirjoitti:

"Erinomaisia asialähteitä tuossa Jodel-linkissä, lieneeköhän lainailtu jostain toisaalta, sama se. Silkkaa asiaa kumminkin."

Aivan sama, vaikka olisi täältä tai Wikipediasta kopioitu, niin kauan kuin on kunnon sisältöä. :)

Niille, jotka eivät jostain syystä pysty avaamaan linkkiä:


□ The Polish plan for a "preventive war" against Germany in 1933

https://www.jstor.org/stable/25776646

□ The Polish Blitz, More than a Mere Footnote to History: Poland and Preventive War with Germany, 1933

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/09592290903455667

□ How Pilsudski nearly averted World War II

https://ampoleagle.com/how-pilsudski-nearly-averted-world-war-ii-p11868-1.htm

□ Magda Dercz,

First strike: how the Poles wanted to launch a ‘preventive war’ against Hitler’s Germany

Verkkoarkistoitu sittemmin lakkautetulta sivustolta:

https://web.archive.org/web/20240129192106/https://www.thefirstnews.com/article/first-strike-how-the-poles-wanted-to-launch-a-preventive-war-against-hitlers-germany-3447

□ Poland Daily History

Poland's plans on a pre-emptive war against Nazi Germany in 1934

Benjamin Lee haastattelee historioitsija Krzysztof Jabłonkaa.

https://youtu.be/Lfrsa2JXb2E?si=E-MmGnSzEuIzk7PF

□ Is Preventive War Ever Justified?

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/is-preventive-war-ever-justified_b_1652686

Artikkelista siteeratut osuudet, Jodelissa tilan puutteen vuoksi vain lyhyemmät osuudet:

》 Recognizing that Hitler was immune to normal diplomacy, Piłsudski began preparations for a preventive war. Unlike the situation in 1939, in March 1933, Poland was in a position to carry out this threat. As Hitler knew, the Polish army possessed more than 250,000 highly trained and well-equipped soldiers. Although in the initial stages of secretly rearming, in 1933 the German military had no modern weapons, namely airplanes, tanks, or armored cars, and according to the terms of the Versailles Treaty its army was limited to 100,000 men. Piłsudski was prepared to send Polish troops to occupy Danzig, East Prussia, and possibly Upper Silesia, while France would march through the Rhineland into the Ruhr. The move would expose the weakness of the boisterous young Nazi regime, humiliate Hitler, and possibly remove him from power. The occupying troops would then refuse to evacuate German territory until the Reich made assurances to honor the peace treaty.

...

... Poland, which had lost its brief military superiority, was attacked and overwhelmed by Germany in 1939. It will never be known if Piłsudski's preventive war could have eliminated the Nazi threat. What is known is that without it, millions of Poles were killed and the survivors condemned to another half century of enslavement.

》... just because counterfactual historic arguments are inherently controversial, it does not mean they are never valid. [Tähän kannattaakin kiinnittää enemmän huomiota.] One can make the reasonable case that preventive war against Hitler in 1933 would have altered history in a positive direction and might have spared Europe from the nightmare of WWII.《


Jos linkki ei muuten näy, se on myös tallennettuna tänne:

https://web.archive.org/web/20251013071811/https://share.jodel.com/post?postId=689c777b0c58c7a3ab1a7eb8&channel=copy


Olkaa hyvät. :)

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